can you put this into context for us?. >> the ncaa is a huge institution moving in a glacial pace to get anything done. they handed down penalties fast wout doing their own investigation. and there is some criticizing that. people penalized the most have nothing to do with jerry sandusky or the cover up. and there is no doubt they have to feel like they're the next set of victims in their own way. and they had to do something dramatic and meaningful but are penalizing kids that are in the program probably had no knowledge from the activities. >> this is an ugly time for penn state. is that why they just accepted it? >> they had spector of the death penalty hanging over them. and they received as a punishment fr paying players under the stable. and we're talking three decades later they've never been able to come close to rebuilding lead level programs so i think the ncaa didn't want to wipe out penn state football complete lie this does seem like the next worst thing, really. so what does this mean as a team? >> players as